San Francisco History

Police Stables

Posted by Ron Filion on April 15, 2001 at 08:40:51:

 In Reply to: Stables posted by Ty Dorian on April 09, 2001 at 09:15:18:

 The Police Stables were built in 1932.

Source: The Making of Golden Gate Park, The Early Years: 1865-1906, Raymond H. Clary, page 177.

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Re: Hometown Hangings

Posted by Ron Filion on April 15, 2001 at 08:50:17:

 In Reply to: Hometown Hangings posted by Eric Moon on April 11, 2001 at 08:13:46:

 There's a great article from 1882 that lists all the hangings up to that time. There were only two OFFICIAL PUBLIC hangings, one was in December 1852 on the north slope of Russian Hill where the old cemetery was located, and the second was hanged at the Presidio in July 1854. There is another good article from 1887 describing these two. After these, the hangings were done at the County Jail which was located on the north side of Broadway between Kearny and Grant.

Sources: San Francisco Morning Call. 31 March 1882. 3.
San Francisco Daily Examiner. 2 October 1887. 15.
 

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Re: 1850's

Posted by Aubrei on April 18, 2001 at 03:42:44:

 In Reply to: Re: 1850's posted by John Martini on April 05, 2001 at 13:38:36:

 I would just like to say thank you to Mr. Ron Filion and Mr. John Martini for their replies to my request for information. I will look into those sources.
Thank you again,
Aubrei

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Map

Posted by Barbara on April 18, 2001 at 12:39:56:

 I am from MA and would like to know where or how to obtain a late 1800's map of the area of San Francisco that included Minna, Geneva, Fillmore, 3rd and Folsom, etc.
I am told they are small streets.
I don't know who I should write. The state library, Sutro Library or where??

Thank you kindly, Barbara

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Re: Map

Posted by Diane Toomey on April 19, 2001 at 01:44:27:

 In Reply to: Map posted by Barbara on April 18, 2001 at 12:39:56:

 Check E-Bay. Search under "San Francisco." They always offer old maps for sale.

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Re: Map

Posted by Ron Filion on April 19, 2001 at 02:00:03:

 In Reply to: Map posted by Barbara on April 18, 2001 at 12:39:56:

 The San Francisco Public Library History Room has photocopies of old maps that they sell.

Take a look at their page for contact info:

http://206.14.7.53/sfhistory/sfhc.htm

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building custom small boats in SF c. 1870

Posted by Chris Nowowiecki on April 19, 2001 at 05:16:01:

 Looking for any information on the building of small custom boats in SF c. 1870.

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Displaced African-American community

Posted by Lindsay Sablosky on April 19, 2001 at 05:36:28:

 I once heard what I thought was a story about a vibrant African-American community in the Bay Area around the turn of the century (I think) that was completely displaced to be developed (for what purposes, I'm not sure), much like the Chavez Ravine community in Los Angeles was completely displaced to build Dodger Stadium.

Can anyone substantiate this dim memory? Thanks.

Lindsay Sablosky

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S.F. African American Historical and Cultural Society

Posted by Ron Filion on April 19, 2001 at 06:11:40:

 In Reply to: Displaced African-American community posted by Lindsay Sablosky on April 19, 2001 at 05:36:28:

 You might try contacting these folks:

San Francisco African American Historical and Cultural Society
Fort Mason Center, Bldg. C, Room 165
San Francisco, CA 94123
415-441-0640

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Re: building custom small boats in SF c. 1870

Posted by John Martini on April 19, 2001 at 11:57:58:

 In Reply to: building custom small boats in SF c. 1870 posted by Chris Nowowiecki on April 19, 2001 at 05:16:01:

 Your best source will be the J. Porter Shaw Library at San Francisco Maritime National Historical Park, at http://www.nps.gov/safr/local/lib/libtop.html

Good folks down there. They have exhaustive files on ships and boat building, and even take email research requests!

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Re: San Francisco Tugboats

Posted by carolyn feroben on April 20, 2001 at 00:18:56:

 In Reply to: San Francisco Tugboats posted by Bill Trinkle on April 02, 2001 at 13:11:07:

 Bill-

Check _San Francisco: Port of Gold_ by Camp- pub 1947.

There is information in there regarding the Tug Boat Owners Association.

Best, Carolyn

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San Fransico Ferry building. 1928

Posted by Jean M Maruejouls on April 19, 2001 at 22:24:55:

 I am the grandaughter of a Mr. Holtz. Not sure of first name. He had a magazine stand in the ferry building in 1928. I was the illegitamate child of his son Charles Holtz. It would be fun to see his photo if one was taken of his famous stand.
I remember visiting him at the cigar and cigarette stand. I had hopes of finding a photo of that stand in the archives of the Ferry Building during that time, from 1920 on. He was perhaps 40 or so at that time. So that would be a time fram. Any information you can give me would be greatly appreciated. I never knew my father, just my grandfather. mother neve kept in touch after he helped her some when I was about two. I am now 75 this year.
 

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Re: Yick Wo v. Hopkins

Posted by Bill Trinkle on April 21, 2001 at 15:18:25:

 In Reply to: Yick Wo v. Hopkins posted by Heather on April 12, 2001 at 12:03:59:

 The U.S. Supreme Court case included an appeal from a California Supreme Court case. Check the Cal Supreme Court Decision. There may also have been a decision of one of the California Appeal Courts. If you have difficulty getting the Cal cases let me know and I should be able to email them to you. Let me know what wordprocessing system you use. If you don't have the U.S. Supreme Court decision you can get it at this site: http://www.megalaw.com/fed/usopinions.php3

Best of luck. Bill Trinkle----

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golden gate bridge artifacts

Posted by J Rogers on April 22, 2001 at 04:26:23:

 Is anyone aware of a source for genuine gg bridge artifacts - steel, cable, etc.?

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San Francisco Calendar of Events for 1866

Posted by Roger Rule on April 22, 2001 at 10:18:17:

 I am a published writer and am currently working on a novel that involves early San Francisco. I need to find a record of the important "calendar of events" for the year, 1866.

I have information that makes me believe that there exists a record written by one, Henry G. Langley, called The San Francisco Directory; Chronological History of Principal Events. 1866, 1967

Any help in finding this or a source of equal in-dept research would solve my immediate writer's block.

Thank you.

Roger Rule
rcrwin70@aol.com
 
 

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Census Wards

Posted by Bruce C Young on April 22, 2001 at 15:23:36:

 Hello; I would like to know if there available
anywhere maps of census wards for the years 1850
1860 1870 1880 1890 for the San Francisco area or
city. I have no been able to find any so far.

Awaiting reply; Bruce C Young

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Haight-Ashbury Homepage - http://www.LoveHaight.com

Posted by Willie Brown on April 23, 2001 at 19:38:02:

 Tune In, Turn On and Trip Out at the Haight-Ashbury Homepage - http://www.LoveHaight.com
 
 

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Re: Haight-Ashbury Homepage - http://www.LoveHaight.com

Posted by Willie Brown on April 23, 2001 at 19:38:37:

 In Reply to: Haight-Ashbury Homepage - http://www.LoveHaight.com posted by Willie Brown on April 23, 2001 at 19:38:02:

 Cool Site Man!

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Epidemic in the City 1890's

Posted by Linda on April 23, 2001 at 21:27:28:

 Is anyone aware of some type of deadly epidemic which may have occurred in the City 1893-1899 ?

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Donahue Family and Union Iron Works

Posted by Brian W Chambers on April 24, 2001 at 04:17:08:

 I am trying to find information on the Donahues (C.1830-1923) and their founding of Union Iron Works (1849) and the building of a locmotive for the Pittsburgh Railroad of California.
Also the eventual incorporation of the Gas Works they owned in 1852 which went on to become SF Gas and Light Co.for Industrial History Research.
 

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Bank of America

Posted by Gabrielle on April 24, 2001 at 05:04:24:

 Help settle a dispute: I say A.P. Gianini was the founder of Bank of America. My boyfriend says the was founded by the Tobin family.

Please help settle this question.
 
 

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Re: Bank of America

Posted by Joe Thompson on April 24, 2001 at 06:49:17:

 In Reply to: Bank of America posted by Gabrielle on April 24, 2001 at 05:04:24:

 Amadeo Pietro Gianini founded it as the Bank of Italy in 1904.

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police department

Posted by aubrei on April 24, 2001 at 12:14:26:

 hello, I have written before,but was wondering if you could provide anymore information. My question is when did the police department form in SanFrancisco and how did they get along with the vigilante groups?
thank you
Aubrei

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Re: police department

Posted by Bill Trinkle on April 24, 2001 at 15:26:35:

 In Reply to: police department posted by aubrei on April 24, 2001 at 12:14:26:

 From San Francisco Almanac (1995 ed.) pp 339, 340:

"In 1847, before San Francisco was chartered, the police force consisted of six men. By 1850 the force increased to 12 men, hardly sufficient to control crime and the many riotous disturbances."
"In June 1851, and again in 1856, a small band of citizens formed themselves into a Committee of Vigilance to arrest lawbreakers, try them, and pronounce and carry out sentences. Following the adjournment of the Vigilantes, the regular police force was again made responsible for enforcing the laws and keeping the peace."

"In July 1847, San Francisco's population was 459. Colonel R. B. Mason, the military governor of California, wrote to Alcalde (Mayor) George Hyde that the town needed a police force.... Mason said: 'I therefore desire that you call a town meeting for election of six persons, who, with the alcalde, shall constitute the town authorities until the end of the year 1848.'"

Hope this helps.

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old gang called 40 strong

Posted by Abby Young on April 24, 2001 at 15:50:40:

 I am wondering if anyone ever heard of a gang called 40 strong that used to hang out in chinatown. I am curious to find out how to get information on them. This gang was around in the late 1800's or early 1900's. If you have any info on this gang please contact me and tell me what you know. thanks sincerely Abby Young

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origin of the name "alcatraz"

Posted by Lou Partridge on April 25, 2001 at 02:01:00:

 what is the origin of the name alcatraz?

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Re: police department

Posted by Aubrei on April 25, 2001 at 04:54:36:

 In Reply to: Re: police department posted by Bill Trinkle on April 24, 2001 at 15:26:35:

 thank you very much and that does help
 

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Re: origin of the name "alcatraz"

Posted by Bill Trinkle on April 25, 2001 at 05:28:38:

 In Reply to: origin of the name "alcatraz" posted by Lou Partridge on April 25, 2001 at 02:01:00:

 "The 22.5-acre Isla de Alcatraces (Spanish for Pelican Island) was named in August 1775 by Lt. Juan Manuel de Ayala, Spanish commander of the survey vessel San Carlos, the first ship to enter San Francisco Bay." San Francisco Almanac (1995 ed.), p.239.

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Re: Census Wards

Posted by Diane Toomey on April 25, 2001 at 05:55:03:

 In Reply to: Census Wards posted by Bruce C Young on April 22, 2001 at 15:23:36:

 I found maps useful in researching the census at the SF Public Library in the government section (5th Floor, I think). Ask the librarian at the desk.

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Re: Bank of America

Posted by Diane Toomey on April 25, 2001 at 05:56:47:

 In Reply to: Re: Bank of America posted by Joe Thompson on April 24, 2001 at 06:49:17:

 I think Tobin founded the Hibernia Bank.

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Re: L'Italia Daily News

Posted by Bill Trinkle on April 25, 2001 at 09:26:03:

 In Reply to: L'Italia Daily News posted by Paul Janicki on April 06, 2001 at 05:01:27:

 1886...>1920... Italia, L' (italian)

from the Listing of S.F. newspapers on this site. See main Page.

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Business at 72 Jackson St. 1908 SF

Posted by Fred on April 25, 2001 at 16:24:39:

 I have a old pocket watch circa 1908 that is FACTORY engraved "Anna L. Silveira 72 Jackson Street San Francisco".

Can you tell me the nature of that business, or who this person was??

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Re: origin of the name "alcatraz"

Posted by Frank Hatfield on April 26, 2001 at 02:34:04:

 In Reply to: Re: origin of the name "alcatraz" posted by Bill Trinkle on April 25, 2001 at 05:28:38:

 That may be the correct answer, that pelican bit. On the other hand, there was that business about goat island and
Alcatraz being switched on an English map...or something like that. Then there is the oft-mentioned problem of
Spain not having pelicans, or that Alcatraces actually refers to Cormorants, or that Alcatraces really is Old
Spanish for "Island of the Strange Looking Birds".

I dunno.

Would be nice if Park Technician Martini could set us straight.

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Treasure Island Dream Home

Posted by Sidney Rasmussen on April 26, 2001 at 04:41:07:

 Does anyone have information about the Dream Home that was raffled off at the World's Fair on Treasure Island?

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California State School of Pharmacy

Posted by Marilyn Demas on April 27, 2001 at 05:22:13:

 Hello,
What a marvelous informative site. Can anyone tell me when the
Ca. State School of Pharmacy opened? Thank you!!! Marilyn

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MARIA KIPP ORPHANAGE

Posted by Marta Starr on April 27, 2001 at 05:34:02:

 Where can I find information about Maria Kipp Orphanage? It is mentioned in the 1900 SF Census and in the May 1906 Temporary Telephone Book as being at Lake and 7th Ave., but it is not in your 1893 Child Saving Charities List.

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Seabirds and Espan~ol...

Posted by Grant73 on April 27, 2001 at 08:14:20:

 In Reply to: Re: origin of the name "alcatraz" posted by Frank Hatfield on April 26, 2001 at 02:34:04:

 Just when we think we know something, it gets painted gray. :o)

My favorite on-line Spanish dictionary (and it does happen to be from Spain, not Latin America, which is sometimes a problem in itself), translates "alcatraz" as gannet, "cormora'n" as cormorant, "albatros" as albatross, and "peli'cano" as pelican. But language is a living thing, and whatever people interpret or imbue in or from words, only the people they communicate with need to understand?

As to pelicans in Spain, I would have to check google.com for 'las marismas' or look in Michener's _Iberia_ to be sure, but with two Mediterranean coasts and one Atlantic, I suppose there are pelicans in Spain. If not, the 250 years of navigation prior to the naming of the bay islands surely brought every sailor in sight of the unforgettable stomach-bill near-caricature that the pelican represents!

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Grant Department Store

Posted by Stephanie on April 27, 2001 at 11:51:28:

 I wonder if anyone knows where in SF there would have been a store called Grants.
It might have been a clothing store or even a department store.
Thanks.

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Re: Seabirds and Espan~ol...

Posted by Bill Trinkle on April 28, 2001 at 01:11:56:

 In Reply to: Seabirds and Espan~ol... posted by Grant73 on April 27, 2001 at 08:14:20:

 Main Entry: gannet
Pronunciation: 'ga-n&t
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural gannets also gannet
Etymology: Middle English ganet, from Old English ganot; akin to Old English gOs goose
Date: before 12th century
: any of a genus (Morus of the family Sulidae) of large fish-eating seabirds that breed in colonies chiefly on offshore islands

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Shipwrecked sailors visit 'cisco in 1888/89

Posted by Dave on April 28, 2001 at 02:46:21:

 My ancestor, William Chambers, together with other crew members, got a lift to San Francisco in 1888 or 89, landing on 15th Sept., on the post schooner 'Tropic Bird', via Tahiti, after their own ship, The Derby Park, wasshipwrecked on Penrhyn Island. Amongst the crew were the Captain Henry Rothery (but his wife died in the wreck).

I have the original handwritten account, with pictures, but urgently need information on what happened to them after they landed in San Francisco, were taken to the Consul-General, and put into a sailor's boarding house on the City Front.

Can anyone find any info for me please ???

I will willingly exchange the info I have.

Perhaps the local paper did an article or even photographs ?

Thanks

Dave
 

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History of the Surf Club

Posted by David Block on April 28, 2001 at 03:08:03:

 I'm trying to get some information about the Surf Club, a music venue in San Francisco. The only address I have for it is "SF Beach". I'm trying to find out when it opened, how long it operated, where it was located, what types of music or other entertainment was hosted there, and when it closed. Even fragmentary answers to the above questions would be appreciated.
Thank you, David Block
 
 
 

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Re: History of the Surf Club

Posted by John Martini on April 28, 2001 at 03:35:10:

 In Reply to: History of the Surf Club posted by David Block on April 28, 2001 at 03:08:03:

 I remember the Surf Club well. The following history is based on a variety of sources including my own memory, so bear with me.

The Surf Club was located on the Great Highway just north of Balboa Street, in the 1950s and had a variety of uses/names over the years. It was first constructed around 1889 as the "Beach Pavilion" building, and seems to have been a sort of tavern/rental hall/retreat complex. Among other things, it served as a training site for turn-of-the-century boxers.

The building was remodeled numerous times, and was probably most famous to locals as "Topsy's Roost" in the 1920s and '30s. This restaurant was famous for its fried chicken dinners and was decorated in a horrific southern "pickaninny" theme.

I remember the building as the "Surf Club" in the early 1950s, but can't give you specific details about its dates of operation under that name or acts that played it. (I think it was primarily a rental hall.) Your best bet would be to check old SF phone books to find the dates it was listed as "Surf Club," and then scan the newspapers of the era for acts that might have played there.

The Pavillion building had three more 'lives' after the Surf Club. Sometime around 1964 it was remodeled into a huge slot car racing center, and then in 1969 it became "The Family Dog on the Great Highway" rock auditorium. The Pavillion's last use was "Friends and Relations Hall" about 1972. I believe it demolished along with the rest of Playland in the early '70s.

You can find lots of photos of the Pavillion in its various incarnations by going to SF Public Library's on-line historic photo collection and searching under "Ocean Beach" or "Playland."

Hope this is useful.

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Mother's family history

Posted by Diane Fuller on April 28, 2001 at 08:13:43:

 My mom is a descendant of Jose'Francsico Ortega and I would be interested in obtaining some more information if I could of this very rich in historical value family. Any information would be helpful. Some other names that I have in my tree are as follows: Lydia Maria Gilroy, Carmen Altamrina Hollister,Joaquin De La Torre, Maria DeLosAngeles Cota, Juan Bautista De LaTorre.

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Re: Grant Department Store

Posted by Haywood on April 28, 2001 at 09:55:21:

 In Reply to: Grant Department Store posted by Stephanie on April 27, 2001 at 11:51:28:

 In the 50's and 60's the best meat market in town (arguably) was Grant Market, run by the Bercut brothers on Market St., I think between 5th and 6th.

They later relocated to Chestnut Street, but I don't think they are around any more. I don't know if that is the Grant's or Grant you are looking for.

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Hispanic/Early CA ancestry

Posted by Julia Christy on April 28, 2001 at 12:39:21:

 In Reply to: Mother's family history posted by Diane Fuller on April 28, 2001 at 08:13:43:

 You might find some sources and cousins at Los Californianos:
http://www.loscalifornianos.org/

Check their index- voluntarios link for persons researching same surnames.

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San Francisco Nursery for Homeless Children

Posted by Kirby Harris-Gonzalez on April 28, 2001 at 13:56:10:

 SF Nursery for Homeless Children listed in 1900 Census on Mission in 1906 temp directory it had moved.
Does anyone know how I can get information/records from there? Also does anyone know of foster children's list in SF between 1893 & 1900?
Please e-mail me off line at
hemeah@earthlink.net

THANKS!
Kirby

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Crocker Asylum/Hospital?

Posted by kirby harris-gonzalez on April 28, 2001 at 14:46:31:

 have 1915 death cert that indicates descendent was "inmate at Crocker". She died of a stroke at St. Joseph's Hospital. There are 3 address on certificate:

1451 Franklin Street
(address of "informant)

2504 Pine
(former or usual address - length 14days)

150(?) or 1(?) 7 Sutter St.

where & what are these places?
Your help is GREATLY appreciated!

Please e-mail me at
hemeah@earthlink.net

Kirby

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Re: golden gate bridge artifacts

Posted by Ron Filion on April 29, 2001 at 01:24:50:

 In Reply to: golden gate bridge artifacts posted by J Rogers on April 22, 2001 at 04:26:23:

 Interesting question. I've never anyone selling any of this. You might try contacting the Golden Gate Bridge Gift Center and ask them.

http://www.goldengatebridge.org/gift/
 

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Re: San Francisco Calendar of Events for 1866

Posted by Ron Filion on April 29, 2001 at 01:28:08:

 In Reply to: San Francisco Calendar of Events for 1866 posted by Roger Rule on April 22, 2001 at 10:18:17:

 This is available in Langley's 1867 City Directory which is available at the S.F. Main Library and other libraries.

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Chinese Historical Society

Posted by Ron Filion on April 29, 2001 at 01:31:20:

 In Reply to: old gang called 40 strong posted by Abby Young on April 24, 2001 at 15:50:40:

 You might try contacting the Chinese Historical Society at:

http://www.chsa.org/

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Re: California State School of Pharmacy

Posted by Ron Filion on April 29, 2001 at 01:35:14:

 In Reply to: California State School of Pharmacy posted by Marilyn Demas on April 27, 2001 at 05:22:13:

 According to their web site, "The School of Pharmacy of the University of California, San Francisco was founded in 1872 as the California College of Pharmacy by a group of farsighted members of the California Pharmaceutical Society, itself then only four years old..."

http://www.sop.ucsf.edu/history.html

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local addresses

Posted by Ron Filion on April 29, 2001 at 01:41:01:

 In Reply to: CROCKER ASYLUM?HOSPITAL? posted by kirby harris-gonzalez on April 28, 2001 at 14:46:31:

 These are all local addresses on streets that still exist in the same place as they did in 1915. You can look up the house address in the 1915 Street Directory on this site to determine the nearest cross streets and the geographical placement.

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genealogy research and leads

Posted by Ron Filion on April 29, 2001 at 01:44:19:

 In Reply to: SAN FRANCISCO NURSERY FOR HOMELESS CHILDREN posted by Kirby Harris-Gonzalez on April 28, 2001 at 13:56:10:

 You may want to take a look at Pam Storm's excellent genealogy site for San Francisco.

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Western Pacific Rail tunnel through Potrero hill?

Posted by James McNamara on April 29, 2001 at 06:02:40:

 I am having an insane time trying to find any information about the Western Pacific Railroad tunnel which is now plugged up but goes through potrero hill from 18th and Arkansas and pops out at 22nd and Missouri st. There was a fire in this tunnel in 1962 causing 4 houses on Missouri between 19th and 20th to collapse and cave in. I have searched through the Western Pacific Rail pages online to no avail. I have found photographs of the WP railyard at 7th and Brannan. I have always wondered why the buildings around Alameda and Rhode Island street were angled, the answer is to line up to go through this tunnel. Any info?

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Re: Donahue Family and Union Iron Works

Posted by Ron Filion on April 29, 2001 at 07:15:47:

 In Reply to: Donahue Family and Union Iron Works posted by Brian W Chambers on April 24, 2001 at 04:17:08:

 Here are some resources. They should all be available at the California State Library.

California Pioneer, March 6, 1857, p. 60; March 20, 1857, p. 76. Includes a description of new iron foundry by Peter Donahue.

"The locomotives of the Union Iron Works." Illus. Railway and locomotive historical society. Bulletin 68. 1946. p. 40-48.

P.G. and E. of California. Charles Coleman. 1952.

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Typhoid Fever

Posted by Ron Filion on April 29, 2001 at 07:18:00:

 In Reply to: Epidemic in the City 1890's posted by Linda on April 23, 2001 at 21:27:28:

 Typhoid Fever occurred in Oakland in 1893. There is mention of it in San Francisco in 1896. Deaths did result from it.

Sources:
San Francisco Call. 1 July 1893. 10.
San Francisco Call. 11 August 1896. 9.

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Re: Business at 72 Jackson St. 1908 SF

Posted by Ron Filion on April 29, 2001 at 07:19:45:

 In Reply to: Business at 72 Jackson St. 1908 SF posted by Fred on April 25, 2001 at 16:24:39:

 According to the 1908 City Directory, Miss Anna L. Silveira was a retail jeweler at that location. She lived in Oakland.

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Maria Kip Orphanage

Posted by Ron Filion on April 29, 2001 at 07:26:40:

 In Reply to: MARIA KIPP ORPHANAGE posted by Marta Starr on April 27, 2001 at 05:34:02:

 According to Mrs. Maria L. Kip's obituary in 1893, the Maria L. Kip Orphanage was "...one of the best benevolent institutions of San Francisco, was founded by her and tenderly watched over by her during her life..." According to an 1892 newspaper article, "There are sixty-eight children in the intitution...The parlors, dining-rooms, kitchens, dormitories and departments of this orphanage were a model of neatness and cleanliness." This description referred to the location at 570 Harrison.

According to the City Directory of 1900, the orphanage was located at the northeast corner of 7th and Lake. The listed staff included Miss Carrie Gwin, President; Mrs. Thomas P. Goodward, Secretary; Miss Mary Heath, Corresponding Secretary; and, Mrs. Alice M. Fox, Matron.

Also, the husband of Maria Kip was Right Reverend William L. Kip.

Sources:
San Francisco Call. 9 September 1893. 3.
San Francisco Call. 18 September 1892. 9.
San Francisco City Directory. 1900.

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Sunshine House

Posted by Ron Filion on April 29, 2001 at 07:30:17:

 In Reply to: Treasure Island Dream Home posted by Sidney Rasmussen on April 26, 2001 at 04:41:07:

 According to a brochure on file with the S.F. Public Library History Room, the "Sunshine House," located on a lot in the Lakeside Tract, was to be given away by the Constructions Industries Section of the San Francisco Chamber of Commerce at the S.F. Civic Center on 9 December 1939. (Exterior pictures.)

According to a newsarticle, the "Sunshine House," designed by Architect Vincent G. Raney, was opened to the public about a week later. It was located at Crestlake Drive and Vale Street, near Sloat. Source: San Francisco Chronicle. 17 December 1939. 13. (Interior picture.)

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Re: Shipwrecked sailors visit 'cisco in 1888/89

Posted by Ron Filion on April 29, 2001 at 07:35:40:

 In Reply to: Shipwrecked sailors visit 'cisco in 1888/89 posted by Dave on April 28, 2001 at 02:46:21:

 The major newspapers printed the news of the wreck and the arrival of the crew (including Chambers) on the Tropic Bird. It was also mentioned that the British Consul were going to investigate the matter.

Sources:

S.F. Call. 20 September 1888. 7.
S.F. Alta. 20 September 1888. 1, 7.
S.F. Alta, 21 September 1888. 2.
S.F. Chronicle. 20 September 1888. 6.

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LACHMAN BROTHERS FURNITURE STORE.

Posted by MARK BROWN on April 29, 2001 at 08:15:11:

 Hello, recently my wife and I were given an old piece of furniture that was painted over with a beige paint and then covered in a Varnish. I started to strip the furniture, and found a tag on the back that was not salvageable once the stripper was applied. However, I did manage to copy the information that was on the back of the piece. It read as follows: Lachman Bros Furniture Store San Francisco We sell Victrolas. I looked in your Business section and found a picture that reads 1956 Jan 12. However, there is nothing else I can locate on this furniture store. Do you have anymore info. available or can you direct me to book or place I can use as reference? The furniture seems to be made of either oak or else a Walnut wood, and the glass is still origional, and not broken or cracked. I am attempting to get as much history on this as I can. Anything you can supply will be greatly appreciated.
Mark Brown

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Trial Transcript

Posted by david hug on May 01, 2001 at 01:03:10:

 I want to find a copy of the transcript of the trial of Liu Fook/Fuk
for the murder of Rosetta Baker in SF in 1931.

See SF Chronicle articles on it at http://userzweb.lightspeed.net/davey.
 
 

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SF street renumbering since 1906?

Posted by Vince Huening on May 01, 2001 at 08:24:41:

 I have a couple of street addresses from 1907 and 1908 gleaned from birth
certificates. Can I rely on the house numbers to be the same today, or
has there been a street renumbering since then?

The addresses are:
937 Howard St.
3345 18th St.

Thanks in advance!
Vince

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Catholic parish for German-Americans?

Posted by Vince Huening on May 01, 2001 at 08:28:19:

 Did any of the Catholic parishes of the early 1900s have a primarily
German-speaking congregation? If so, is that parish still in existence
today?

Thanks!

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population

Posted by Aubrei on May 01, 2001 at 11:03:35:

 hello,
I was wondering if anybody could tell me the population of San Francisco in 1948 and 1951, or where I could find that information. And also what did people do for entertainment in 1851 San Francisco. Thank you I have appreciated the information I recieve every time I post a message,
Aubrei

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Re: SF street renumbering since 1906?

Posted by Julia Christy on May 01, 2001 at 15:25:39:

 In Reply to: SF street renumbering since 1906? posted by Vince Huening on May 01, 2001 at 08:24:41:

 Your best bet might be to check the city directories before and after. The houses on some streets were renumbered about that time, maybe even as late as post 1920.
OR
check Sanborn Insurance Maps to see the location of the earlier numbering. I know a neighborhood that had 206 become #210, 220 become #240 and 126 become #162 ( I thought the last might be a typo) - but the cousins say that is where grandma always lived.

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Re: Grant Department Store

Posted by John Martini on May 01, 2001 at 15:39:18:

 In Reply to: Grant Department Store posted by Stephanie on April 27, 2001 at 11:51:28:

 I grew up in the 1950s in Daly City and remember a W.T. Grant Store in the Westlake Shopping Center. It wasn't really a clothing or department store but more of a "Five and Dime" in the same vein as Woolworth's.

I believe "Grant's" was a local retail chain but can't tell you how many stores were in the chain or its geographic area.

Hope this is useful.

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Re: SF street renumbering since 1906?

Posted by Jan C. Nielsen on May 01, 2001 at 22:35:35:

 In Reply to: Re: SF street renumbering since 1906? posted by Julia Christy on May 01, 2001 at 15:25:39:

 In addition to what Julia says, often when houses were razed the new structure would have a different house number. I noted this to be true in the Lafayette Park area. 2129 Laguna, where Pac Bell Chairman (and witness in the 1907 mayoral graft prosecutions) Henry Scott and Titanic disaster survivor (and former city assessor) Washington Dodge lived, was razed in 1919 and replaced by the 3 story apartment building. The building became 2149-2151 Laguna. Also, of course, where huge apartment buildings replaced old, mansions, the numbers would change.

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Re: Trial Transcript

Posted by Bill Trinkle on May 02, 2001 at 12:19:39:

 In Reply to: Trial Transcript posted by david hug on May 01, 2001 at 01:03:10:

 A few thoughts about finding a trial transcript.
1) Was the case appealed so that a trial transcript was prepared at all?
2) If appealed, one step would be to check with the appellate court involved to see if that sort of record is still available. If a federal case it might be handled differenetly and there might be better chance the transcript still exists, for eg at the National Records and Archive Admin.
3) Was any prominent lawyer from a big law firm involved such that the firm or its successor might still be around and have a copy of the transcript.
4) Was it a big enough case and of enough sex appeal such that one of the local newspapers might have obtained a copy of the transcript, but trouble its alot of that has changed except for the Chron.
5) Possibly the S.F. D.A. office if state or the U.S. Attorneys office if federal might have info.
6) No Dist Fed Ct has a historical society. It might be of help.

Can't think of anything else at the moment. If you find something or a source let me know. Sometimes records do get microfilmed, but often not an entire case filed.

Best of luck. Bill Trinkle----

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Strip Club Wars

Posted by Sigi on May 02, 2001 at 12:26:52:

 I'm trying to find out information about the so-called Strip Club wars of the late 60s in North Beach. Help! Thanks

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Brick Streets

Posted by Elizabeth on May 03, 2001 at 03:49:26:

 I live on one of the last brick streets in the city and am trying to save it
from being torn out and replaced with concrete. I'm looking for any
resources I can to find out about the history of this street (Winfield) and
other brick streets in the city, past and present. Any suggestions? Thank
you.

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Sutro's Mansion

Posted by Rob Wilson on May 03, 2001 at 05:12:55:

 What happened to Sutro's mansion that he built above the Cliff House?
Thank you all.
Rob

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Re: population

Posted by rob wilson on May 04, 2001 at 04:07:02:

 In Reply to: population posted by Aubrei on May 01, 2001 at 11:03:35:

 1948-1951 population was 45,000 to 50,000. A lot of post war settlers. People went to clubs to see live music, jazz and dance, go to live theater. Get dressed up and walk Market street. They also went out to the coast (Ocean Beach) to the Cliff house, "playland" and GG Park. Remember that Television came and people started going out less in time. Someone who loves to talk about that era in S.F. is Rita, she owns the City Discounts store on Polk and Filbert. You can find her there if you want a wonderful first hand account.
:o)
Rob

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Re: Brick Streets

Posted by rob wilson on May 04, 2001 at 04:16:35:

 In Reply to: Brick Streets posted by Elizabeth on May 03, 2001 at 03:49:26:

 You are right, it is one of the last brick streets. The most likely cause for it's name is after General Winfield Scott. He commanded the US Army longer than any other general; 1841 to 1861, he was in the war of 1812, Mexican War and led the US Army in the beginning of the Civil War. Scott street is also named after him. Before 1906 it was called Chapultepec.
I would suggest finding another brick street that is fairly well kept up and ask the city how it is being done. From there you may find some resources or plan of action.
Good luck!
Rob

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Re: SF street renumbering since 1906?

Posted by rob wilson on May 04, 2001 at 04:20:02:

 In Reply to: SF street renumbering since 1906? posted by Vince Huening on May 01, 2001 at 08:24:41:

 The SF History section on the 6th floor of the library has all the old street maps. Take a look.
Rob

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Re: Sutro's Mansion

Posted by carolyn feroben on May 05, 2001 at 00:58:52:

 In Reply to: Sutro's Mansion posted by Rob Wilson on May 03, 2001 at 05:12:55:
 

Site http://www.sfbg.com/SFLife/33/15/sutro.html
The complete article is quite interesting---here is a tidbit:
After Sutro's daughter Emma could no
longer afford to keep up the grounds of
what was once a gorgeously
landscaped park, Works Progress
Administration (WPA) crews arrived in
1939 and demolished Sutro's mansion,
his extensive statue garden, and most of
the parapets and gates that surrounded
his property

Carolyn

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Re: Catholic parish for German-Americans?

Posted by carolyn feroben on May 05, 2001 at 15:32:48:

 In Reply to: Catholic parish for German-Americans? posted by Vince Huening on May 01, 2001 at 08:28:19:

 The Catholic Parish for German Americans would be St Boniface-

1887 St. Boniface Church was founded as a parish for German Catholics.
(SFC, 11/28/98, p.A19)

Parish Histories Bibliography here:
http://archives1.archives.nd.edu/PPHC-CA.HTM

Current address:
Saint Boniface Church
133 Golden Gate Avenue
San Francisco
415-241-2636

Good luck, Carolyn
 

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Commercial Street bricks

Posted by Ron Filion on May 06, 2001 at 01:22:44:

 In Reply to: Brick Streets posted by Elizabeth on May 03, 2001 at 03:49:26:

 Last year, the 80-year-old bricks on Commercial street where replaced with concrete. There are copies of the Chronicle articles at the web addresses below. It seems that unless you have the overwhelming support of your neighbors, your efforts may be in vain. Here's a portion of one article:

"Fabled Commercial Street, bereft of nearly all its beloved bricks, reopened in San Francisco's Chinatown yesterday and the street that was once home to 18 brothels got a makeover that would have done any of its former denizens proud....Preservationist Jason Bley, who loved each and every one of the old red bricks so much that he rescued 1,000 of them from the dump...Bley spent months trying to delay the project and get the bricks reinstalled, without success."
 

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2000/12/16/MNW115570.DTL

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2000/11/14/MNW104638.DTL

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2000/09/27/MN39939.DTL

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2000/09/12/MN68789.DTL
 

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Re: Lachman Brothers Furniture Store

Posted by Ron Filion on May 07, 2001 at 00:57:44:

 In Reply to: LACHMAN BROTHERS FURNITURE STORE. posted by MARK BROWN on April 29, 2001 at 08:15:11:

 The store was opened by the Lachman brothers in 1895. The brothers included Gus, Edward, Rudolph and Frank. The store was located at Mission and 16th. It was last listed in 1976.

Sources:
San Francisco Chronicle. 16 August 1925 2.
San Francisco City Directory. 1976, 1977.

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Re: Western Pacific Rail tunnel through Potrero hill?

Posted by Ron Filion on May 07, 2001 at 01:04:38:

 In Reply to: Western Pacific Rail tunnel through Potrero hill? posted by James McNamara on April 29, 2001 at 06:02:40:

 According to a news article, underground work began on the tunnel in 1907. In 1908 the neighbors protested the planned grading of railroad as it left some houses above the line and some below. Regarding the 1962 fire, the S.F. Public Library's History Room has a file with many papers from the different agencies that were involved...some interesting reading.

Sources:
San Francisco Call. 9 September 1907. 7.
San Francisco Call. 29 April 1908. 5.
San Francisco Call. 17 January 1908. 13.?

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Re: Brick Streets

Posted by Jan C. Nielsen on May 07, 2001 at 23:46:09:

 In Reply to: Brick Streets posted by Elizabeth on May 03, 2001 at 03:49:26:

 Octavia Street just below Lafayette Park has a brick street. It's really well maintained. Frankly, I was surprised to find a brick street there because of the steep hill. In wet weather, it must be very difficult to get up that hill.

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Re: Grant Department Store

Posted by Rick Laubscher on May 08, 2001 at 09:32:46:

 In Reply to: Re: Grant Department Store posted by Haywood on April 28, 2001 at 09:55:21:

 Actually, the Grant Market was at 743 Market, at the foot of (where else) Grant Avenue. I worked there as a kid...my family ran the delicatessen counter there and at other noted downtown markets for many years.

The Bercut Brothers, who were French, opened the Grant Market around 1927. It did indeed earn the reputation as the best market in the City for fresh meat, deli products, poultry, etc. In those pre-chain days, neighborhood markets were small and generally didn't deal in goods requiring refrigeration. Around 1950, that started to change with the introduction of supermarkets, and San Franciscans changed their shopping habits, coming downtown less and less for the prosaic practice of fresh food shopping.

WT Grant was indeed a five-and-dime. They probably had SF outlets, though I don't remember any. But since the Grant Market was organized into "departments," meat run by the Bercuts, deli by my family, the "creamery" by the Bonjeans family and so forth, that's probably what was being referred to.

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California Midwinter International Exposition

Posted by Ana Dub on May 08, 2001 at 14:29:16:

 Do you know where I can get some information regarding the California Midwinter International Expo help in Golden Gate Park in 1894?

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Re: California Midwinter International Exposition

Posted by John Martini on May 09, 2001 at 01:48:49:

 In Reply to: California Midwinter International Exposition posted by Ana Dub on May 08, 2001 at 14:29:16:

 I did a quick Google search and found a great web site at http://www.boondocksnet.com/expos/california.html with links to 16 articles on the Midwinter Fair.

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Re: MJB coffee

Posted by mo on May 09, 2001 at 02:58:59:

 In Reply to: MJB coffee posted by Gregg Herken on April 06, 2001 at 12:05:57:

 manfred john brendenstein
 

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Re: California Midwinter International Exposition

Posted by Ron Filion on May 09, 2001 at 10:31:34:

 In Reply to: California Midwinter International Exposition posted by Ana Dub on May 08, 2001 at 14:29:16:

 Take a look at this great website:

http://www.sanfranciscomemories.com/mwf/midwinterfair.html

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Verdi Day GG Park 1914

Posted by David Kleinberg on May 10, 2001 at 09:34:45:

 I have a picture taken at the bandstand. There's a large female opera singer,what looks like an opera official left, and maybe mayor Rolph, right. I am looking for help in idenifying the people and event.

Any helpers? Thanks!!!
 

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Re: Brick Streets

Posted by James McNamara on May 10, 2001 at 10:20:28:

 In Reply to: Brick Streets posted by Elizabeth on May 03, 2001 at 03:49:26:

 Federal Street between Rincon and Delancey is a very interesting brick street. It has geometric decorative edges and apparently some kind of plaque somewhere describing it. I haven't found the plaque but I love the street.

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Novelist looking for some information

Posted by Roger Rule on May 11, 2001 at 08:57:24:

 Aloha from Hawaii,

Published author seeking inforamtion as to the location of the old Del Monte Hotel somewhere in the Bay Area, around the end of the 19th Century or Turn of the Century.

The street address or location is all I need; if anyone knows the dates of its existence, that would be nice too, but not necessary.

Mahalo,
Roger Rule

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Re: Novelist looking for some information

Posted by Bill Trinkle on May 11, 2001 at 09:38:33:

 In Reply to: Novelist looking for some information posted by Roger Rule on May 11, 2001 at 08:57:24:

 Got to the following site for info and photos:

http://caviews.com/delmonte.htm

Also, run a search at www.google.com of "Del Monte Hotel" California. It turns up a fair number of othe sites/info.

Best of luck.

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I need help finding the answer to my little sister's homework question.

Posted by Davida Pedigo on May 11, 2001 at 13:39:59:

 I would greatly appreciate the help with this question because I do not know where else to look for the answer. The question is "What was the highest tempeture in San Fransico in March of 1999?" I would be so thankfull if you caould help us.

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Re: Pacific Coast Steamship Company

Posted by Allan Molho on May 11, 2001 at 15:55:28:

 In Reply to: Re: Pacific Coast Steamship Company posted by Bill Trinkle on April 03, 2001 at 04:45:59:

 I have been doing research on the origins of the pacific Coast Steamship Company and am happy to share with anyone. the company started from a small steamer called Salinas , built to go into Elkhorn slough in monterey County in 1862. In 1867 Goodall and perkins came along and bought the interest of one partner and that started it all.

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Re: I need help finding the answer to my little sister's homework question.

Posted by Ron Filion on May 12, 2001 at 02:38:31:

 In Reply to: I need help finding the answer to my little sister's homework question. posted by Davida Pedigo on May 11, 2001 at 13:39:59:

 The National Weather Service has a list of temperatures for the Bay Area at: http://www.nws.mbay.net/99WRKCLI.html

For March 1999, the highest temperature appeared to be 65 degrees on March 25.

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Sutro Homes

Posted by Bob Holloway on May 12, 2001 at 04:27:41:

 Adolph Sutro had several homes around the Bay Area. Besides his home at
Sutro Heights Park (now demolished) in San Francisco, I believe he also had
a home on Fillmore Street (@ Grove?) and one somewhere on top of today's
Sutro Tower hill. I've also read that he had a Napa Valley country estate.
Does anyone know the EXACT locations of the Fillmore, Sutro Tower or Napa
Valley homes, or any other Sutro homes in the Bay Area? Are any of these
homes still standing?

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Adolph Sutro's Will

Posted by Bob Holloway on May 12, 2001 at 10:02:13:

 When Adolph Sutro died in 1898, why did it take 20 years to settle his will? Who contested it? Was it his heirs
(wife and children)? Was it creditors? Why was it contested?

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